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  1. *preface* All information here will be based off of the various PC versions balance and performance history. Hi guys, One of the most asked questions when it comes to BDO is what class you should play. Most people give you the generic "play what looks fun" answer but im a numbers guy so if you want some solid suggestions your in the right place. I will go over our starting classes and give you the strengths / weaknesses / and any extra information I feel will help you in making a decision in what to play. Section 1 : Relevance - In the current state of BDO's meta only 3 of our starting 6 classes are currently relevant ( a top performing class in at-least one area of the game): Those classes are : Wizzard / Witch / Sorc. The current classes that are irrelevant in the BDO meta are : Warrior / Berserker / and Ranger. If you want to stick to a class from launch to current game, and perform at an optimal level without re-rolling at some point I would recommend sticking to one of the the 3 relevant starting classes. *explanations of why will be included in the specific class breakdowns. Section 2 : Class breakdowns - Since I have listed 3 classes as no longer relevant in the BDO meta I will start with those 3. Warrior: The warrior is the slowest grinder of the starting classes. It has great mobility and a high skillcap but lacks aoe (Scars of Dusk having a long cooldown). It has an advantage in 1 v 1 pvp pre-awakened over ranger, wizard, and witch but is countered by berserkers grab and sorcs mobility. In large scale (node wars) warrior acts as a "front line" before awakening. Once awakened the warrior gains a large amount of damage and slightly better aoe clear speeds. The awakened warrior lost most of its "protection" with a sweeping nerf and have lost its relevance with this hit. It now lacks super armor on most of its abilities and is no longer viable for 1 v 1 or large scale pvp. It is one of the slowest grinding pve classes once awakened as well leaving it with no real role to fill that is not done better by another class. Berserker: The berseker is a pre-awakened juggernaut. It has 2 full self heals, more passive HP, a heavy damage grab, great mobility, and very fast grind speeds. It will seem overpowered until awakenings are released across the board. In 1 v 1 the zerk has the advantage over every class except sorc out of our starting classes. The awakened zerk was also top tier for a long time but was dethroned by a nerf that affected how CC works in BDO, destroying their grab chains. This koocked them down to B tier and the same protection nerfs that gutted warrior also hit zerks giving them a double dose of worthlessness in the bdo metta. They no longer have protection on most o their abilities, and no longer have their cc chains. This has left them as a weak 1 v 1 class with mediocre grind speeds and no role to fill in large scale in the current meta. Ranger: The pre awakened ranger is the fastest grinding class of the starting 6 but relies heavily on mana potions to achieve this. They have great overall damage and a ranged hard CC which is extremely powerful at this stage of the game. This combination makes them valuable in large scale and allows them to melt witch / wiz in 1 v 1. They have a good chance to catch a sorc due to their aoe spam as well. The ranger will die though if caught by a grab from a warrior or zerk. Overall I believe that ranger is the best pre-awakened class out of the starting 6. That being said it becomes absolute garbage once awakened. It fill no role that most other classes cant fill better. It grinds slowly, gets smashed in 1 v 1 , has little protection, becomes melee based, and is squishy once awakened, maning it can not stand the aoe spam of large scale pvp. The ranger is the worst of the starting 6 classes to play long term. Witch / Wiz : The best classes to start with if you plan to play long term. Both are god awful at 1 v 1 pre-awakend, loosing to any hard cc (which every other class has). Both are amazing aoe grinders, second only to ranger, but do not rely on potions. They are the best support characters in the game by a large margin, healing and buffing any party they are in. They also have a skill called Protected Area which single handedly decides who wins guild and node wars. Once awakened these classes become even more powerful and essential, allowing them to both grind even faster and hold their own in 1 v 1 scenarios. They become the second fastest grinding class (behind Musa) on low DP mobs and are all around an amazing class in every aspect of the game. They also support faceroll gameplay with constant protection on most abilities and straight forward easy to use and land skills. Sorc: Sorc is by far the most technical and skill based class of the starting 6 (and debateably of all the classes in BDO). The difference between a good and bad sorc is the difference between being hunted by a kid with a nerf gun or a US Navy Seal. A good sorc is the god of 1 v 1 pvp. Both pre-awakened and awakened, challenged only by a very good ninja (and Striker / Mystic but both of those classes are just broken past sanity). Pre-awakened sorc is the king of 1 v 1 pvp, in node wars it is the assassin that picks off the enemy's witch / wizards and protects their own in the back-lines. It is one of the slowest grinders, only faster than warrior of the original 6 pre-awakened but becomes one of the fastest once awakened. gaining the spot for fastest grinding class (highest DPS on high DP mobs such as those at Gyfin , Hysteria, Akhman). Sorc is a god but you need to put in alot of time learning animation cancels, rotations, and situational awareness. You also need very fast reflexes and solid snap decision making skills. Bad sorcs are cannon fodder. Play at your own risk. Section 3: Maining a non-lauch class: If you plan to main a class that will launch at a later date I would highly recommend you play a witch or wizard at launch. They both are very fast grinders, not dependant on potions, and can grind quickly with very little gear investment. These classes will allow you to stockpile silver and are "safe" classes for world boss farming allowing you to save those boss weapon boxes until your chosen class is launched. Hope this helps some of you who are trying to decide what to play!
  2. @Seinfeld Youll find the community here has a very "casual" mindset when compared to the PC servers. They tend to get hostile over theory crafting, testing, data, and game experience. Ive given up on trying to help them awhile ago, because they ignore your input, put their fingers in their ears, and scream over you. That being said though, people will do what they want to do.. let em. The more people ignore valid input the further ahead of them you will ultimately be in game. To each their own.
  3. Harming

    Why to chose Berserker ?

    Here is one of the best zerks currently playing. Feel free to browse his various videos to see the state of zerk on live. You can make it work if your good, but most other classes, played on a equal skill and gear level, will beat zerk. https://www.youtube.com/user/Themmmprangers/videos
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    Why to chose Berserker ?

    Until everyone gets their awakening we will be overpowered. Rocking the heve set well be able to sit a comfy 500 HP above what any other class can achieve, have 2 full heals with frontal guard, and good burst with frenzied destroyer cancels. The main drawbacks though is that we rely heavily on ultimate evasion chaining for mobility which is a double tap directional movement skill (which is super unreliable with a joystick). This issue will gimp zerks mobility heavily. I brought it up multiple times and in the QnA and @[CM]Shirna didnt see the issue so it probably wont be getting fixed. Zerk will be the fastest grinding class when played correctly pre-awakened. By using a combination of BWS + raging thunder for back damage you can clear extremely fast with low AP. You can also abuse your grapples very high accuracy to farm deep purple mobs if your AP is high (for example I was able to kill whole packs at Ser shrine in beta at lvl 40 with the slams from grabs). Out of the gate zerk is going to be amazing, right now though on live its lack of protected skills leaves it in a really bad spot. You basically get cced where as most classes your fighting are cycling super armors and immune to cc's. With the Ap meta once your cced, your dead.
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    First....Warrior gang

    Yeah getting a bit of SA back after they gutted wars protection is always welcome. It may be worth using now after a grab to extend down duration a bit while combing. I could see somthing like , block buff, black spears, shield charge , grab, ground smash, cswap, armor break, hilt strike into grave digging. Possible 1 shot combo. It's been awhile si che I've touched my war, before MENA launched. I'll probably be rusty as hell here is a good overview of the buffs:
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    First....Warrior gang

    The recent war buffs on live are promising. The down smash damage went through the roof. Im considering it now.
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    Stroker when?

    Sadly. Its like getting a free 200 gear score over everyone else. As simply to play as wiz and as powerful as a perfectly played sorc.
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    Grinding Etiquette in BDO

    Red guilds are super useful for this, so are alliances. It's like having a mafia and their hitman (red guild alts). If a person's being crappy the alliance decs and camps their guild, if they cant be deced we send un the hitmen to make their lives hell. It's a big wakeup call to most guilds to kick their karma bombers.
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    First....Warrior gang

    My first character on KR was a warrior. Even though we were awful pre-awakend (valks with no burst) at the time it's still the class I've had the most fun with overall.
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    Grinding Etiquette in BDO

    Once you dip below 0 karma and go negative youll be "red". This goes all the way down to -1million karma. You loose karma by flagging up and killing players , their boats, or their horses.
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    What Server Are you playing on

    Its life now a days. Everyone picks a side and hiveminds Into their ideology, making anyone who differs in opinion in any way an enemy. The west is in the brink of another civil war between sjws and functioning human brains. Stupidity is rampant. People are afraid to talk because lives get ruined over phone calls, and the oppressed have become the oppressors. All in all the scientists sit back and build our bomb shelters for the coming war. Welcome to the US 2019. The cancer is spreading.
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    Grinding Etiquette in BDO

    Theres an npc's (tavern in Velia) who will give you the location of any other player for a little silver at any time. Happy hunting!
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    Grinding Etiquette in BDO

    Thats unfortunate. Thinking back now I haven't done bosses since I got my full boss set on MENA. The time frame about lines up. I see PA is taking the wow approach to things here, sad to see. You cant have a "Bad" experience and get upset if you have NO experience at all.
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    Grinding Etiquette in BDO

    Strikers alot like DK in WOTLK. Mystic is like the Lich King himself o.0. Need a competent 25 man to kill it.
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    Grinding Etiquette in BDO

    Ive dropped ult blizzards on declared guilds at dim tree all the time. You can kill a deced guild anywhere as long as theyre not on protection. If an alliance doesnt want you to have a node. You wont.
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    Grinding Etiquette in BDO

    All we can really do is perma deck the twats guilds until they kick the guy bombing. If you get your guild decked by an alliance you become hated quick, when your entire guild can no longer do world bosses or hold a node.
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    Launch Plans.

    True. Zerks mobility is screwed sadly on xbox though due to how ultimate evasion works. All zerk movement combos (outside lava piercer) needs ult evasion but its a double tap directional skill. This means you have to hit the joystick twice in the same direction in some unknown time frame (extremely variable). It only worked like 1/5 times for me in Beta. You dont know how long to leave the joystick over before pushing the 2nd time, if you pull the stick back, how far you have to push it / pull it back, ect. Super unreliable. This sadly kills zerks mobility.
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    Grinding Etiquette in BDO

    The proper treatment of karma bombers:
  19. For anyone looking to start with the ultimate pack I would like to help you get the most for your $ out of the items included. Here are my suggestions / tips on how to use this pack effectively: The Costume: Your costume will be character bound (if it follows the standard of other versions). Make sure to open this on your main character. This will grant you a combat exp buff (among other lesser buffs) and save you a 30$ purchase further down the road. The 90 day value pack: The main draw of this pack is that you will receive a lesser tax on selling items in the market place (meaning you'll make more overall silver). It also has some smaller features that differ based on region, for example some versions include Merves pallet (unlimited dyeing of items with all colors) while some reigns sell this separately. If you are looking to play the game heavily this is a must have, and starting with 3 months is a great boost. The 2 pets: Pets are essential for grinding in BDO and getting a small boost in the beginning can make all the difference. These 2 pets should hold you over until you begin grinding for silver (around Calpheon). I would recommend sticking with these 2 pets, and buying one additional t1 pet (with some of the pearls given in the pack) as the first thing you do in game once you have access to the store. Run with these 3 pets until you begin the silver grind ~lvl50 then look to upgrade to 3 T3 pets (with your remaining pearls). As we gain access to Media you may want to look into grabbing a 4th and 5th T3 pet once you begin the Sausan grind. The Horse: The horse will be decent for leveling but quickly become useless (unless you hit the horse lottery off the bat). Once you are grinding silver your first major purchase should be a horse with Instant Accell, Drift, and Sprint. Keep your eyes on the horse market (I recommend checking every time you bank) for a horse with this skill combination. This horse will speed up your travel time significantly, decreasing down time in every aspect of the game. Horse Armor / Wagon skin: Both cosmetic, no real function 10 x exp scrolls: New players will be tempted to blow these out of the gate to get to 50 quickly :AVOID this trap: Save these scrolls until you are set up to grind silver in a solid rotation. You will get way more mileage out of these once you have your weight upgrades, a fast horse for banking, and a rotation where you can kill endlessly for the entire duration of the scroll. Horse Flute: Allows you to call your horse from further away. Useful but by no means necessary. A nice quality of life item. Storage maid: You can lace this item in any player owned house (bought with CP). The maid will allow you to bank one item every so often in the bank of the region the house is located in. These are particularly useful in mass (20+ maids) to extend grind trips indefinitely (limited only by gear repairs) but this method is expensive. Having one will allow you pull potions from storage remotely in the case of node wars which can be invaluable. * Note * You can pick up the maid and move it to a home in a new reigon at any time to allow yourself access to the bank in that region. 3000 Pearls: Without seeing the prices of items there are a few recommendations on how to spend this initial batch. First you will want to buy a 3rd pet right out of the gate. Having 3 pets from the start means you are both collecting all loot as you level and you are leveling up those 3 pets, making the more efficient once you begin silver grinding. If you plan to grind heavily , and know that your current character will be you main, feel free to grab all of your weight upgrades. The more you can carry the longer your grind trips will be meaning less downtime and more profit. *note* Weight is character bound. Only do this if you plan to stick to only this character. If you do not buy your weight you will have plenty of pearls left by the time you hit 50. At this point you will want to dump these into buying more pets(of the same category) to smash together. Your goal at this point will be to get 3 T3 pets. (eventually aiming for 5 T3 pets by the time Media launches). You can go for T4 pets if you dont mind spending large sums of money for a slight advantage (roughly 100$ USD per T4 pet). T4 pets will pick up loot instantly instead of waiting a second to begin collecting. Other than the instant grab T3 pets have the same pickup rate as T3 pets. And the best for last 72 hours of early access: This is easily the most valuable thing we get with the pack. For this section though I will tell you to do some research, create a plan. Jump on to one of the PC versions and figure out what is possible with a new character of your class in 72 hours. This will set you ahead of the pack by miles (the snowball effect). I wont be giving out my plan here on the forums but highly suggest you create your own. I hope this helps some of you interested in buying this pack. See you all in there!
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    Will EXP accumulate and carry over

    Yeah i think its finished, working heavy at the moment. Will get around to it if i can find time.
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    Node Wars

    Im sadly in this boat as well. Working regularly 9PM - 7-9 AM M-F. Always have to join a guild gunning for Saturday / Sunday nodes.
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    What Server Are you playing on

    NA - be ready for the extremely aggressive AP monkey builds. Wouldn't have it any other way.
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    Will EXP accumulate and carry over

    We come over for the fresh start. Executing a new gameplan to be more efficient and effective with a fresh slate. The race out of the gate the the best part of any MMO by far, which is why subs/ playerbase/ ect always declines heavily after the first month or 2 of every launch. Its the same idea as seasons or leagues in ARPG's.
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    Will EXP accumulate and carry over

    Ive been stuck at hardcaps on MENA twice. Unfortunately the exp past 55.99 will be wasted and does not carry over. You will still get skill points and silver though from grinding on hardcap. If we get vanilla content (with beta exp rates) 50 should be possible in roughly 6 hours with a solid gameplan and no distractions. 50-55 will slow down considerably. If you can comfortably farm ser shrine on rotation without interruptions your probably looking at around 80 efficient grind hours 50-55. This can be done in a week if your dedicated ( ~11 - 12 hour days). If you are planning to quest , do guild events / quests, take breaks ect expect a longer process. Hope that helps and sets your expectations up for whats to come.
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