Relax

I quit for awhile. I just started back today. I don't PVP but I will eventually. I enjoy lifeskills and making money. Sitting at 700m right now without spending any extra money on the game. Artisan Alchemy, Processing, and Cooking!

Bye

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I would never spend 30$ for 30m. I make 100m a day afk alchemy/processing that's plently enough for me. Edit: I might spend money to get some pets so I don't have to wait tho.

I've never even heard of the term pay4conv before this thread so maybe there is a line idk. I consider it all pay2win if you're spendin money so you don't have to grind. I know I just thought it was funny people probably do that tho

rofl

Are you arguing that this game is pay2win or not pay2win? Also you weren't clear about the outfits, I have the cooks clothes and craftsmans clothes and alchemist clothes. I'm just gonna leave this here I'm not gonna argu we got different point of views obv. I understand what you're saying about exclusive items only achievable thru buying them that free players cannot get being pay2win, but I also agree that what I posted above is also considered pay to win by 90% of players.

I have both of the outfits besides fish suit and haven't paid money.

Pay To Win AKA P2W. when you are paying for advantage which normal players don't have access to unless they either pay too or will have to grind very long (weeks and months).

Being a noob who cant get his/her own skills, so they pay real money that skilled players would rather not waste to get an unfair advantage that should not be there (Most Online Games With MicroTransactions Here) is such a pay-to-win game! I spent hours grinding for the PTS Sword when he bought one for like 20 bucks instantly! Paying real life currency to beat players who are inherently better than you in any game. I'm so glad I pay to win in Hearthstone for all my cards, or I wouldn't even have a shot at beating the actual good players!

"pay-to-win Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying. Dude, you've spent like 400 bucks on this game so you can beat everyone who hasn't spent any money. Pay-to-win noob!"

Show me one game that has items that you can only buy in the store and are not acheiveable by playing.

A free to play player to reach that point in stones would take 100s of hours, that is what pay to win means, you pay to advance your character thru means that do not require you to play the game.

Yes 😛

Ok you just proved my point even more thank you.