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We need customizable controls before beta ends so we can test it properly.

It plays like the worst versions of AC.

The camera follows you with the left stick. None of the buttons line up with any other games controls. This is almost as bad of controls as mortal combat. I can't fathom what was going through the head of the guy who thought these controls were a good idea. It's like they haven't even played an Xbox game before.

Having just come from the Xbox versions of Darksouls, The Division, and the PC version of Black Desert: I can say that these controls are just no good.

We either need fully customizable controls, or a brand new schema.

 

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The key mapping right now is fine it feels very similar to the way the PC runs. The only thing I mainly agree with is the auto target camera system needs to have a toggle or corrections for it. This isn't every other game and shouldn't be compared as such.

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2 hours ago, xCROv said:

The key mapping right now is fine it feels very similar to the way the PC runs. The only thing I mainly agree with is the auto target camera system needs to have a toggle or corrections for it. This isn't every other game and shouldn't be compared as such.

 

I agree i feel the controls are very similar to PC

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Wait... By camera follow left stick do you mean tab target? Cause that's a step backwards. 

 

Just so you guys know it should build up into combos... Almost like playing a fighting game. That's what makes it so skills based opposed to just push X button.

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You get used to it, but in larger group, the camera follows random mob, and does 180, which is annoying as fk.

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Ya my only beef so far is the camera movement with left stick thing. If they get rid of that I'd be happy.

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I dont understand.

What do you mean by "camera follow with the left stick"?

You mean turning the camera with the left stick? Or something else?

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I'm finding them very user friendly....I started on PC tho

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding...but are you thinking the camera shouldn't ever move unless you move it?

IMO that is a very old setup that's not present in newer games in the Role Playing Genre.

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51 minutes ago, NewBlacksmurf said:

I'm finding them very user friendly....I started on PC tho

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding...but are you thinking the camera shouldn't ever move unless you move it?

IMO that is a very old setup that's not present in newer games in the Role Playing Genre.

Regardless there should be option for people who prefer it imo. Shouldn't be that difficult to implement and it can be a game changer.

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The 180 degree turn when double tapping the stick is, to the best of my knowledge, being toggleable. 

And what do you mean the camera follows things? All camera controls are controlled by the user o.o

 

As for the general controls, can I ask what feels wrong for you? I personally think they're great but I just wonder what you would change

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I think it’s pretty smooth the only issue is the aim assist 180 the camera

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Camera stick to the mob, or moves without my control when i attack past them. ill try to record and post it...

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30 minutes ago, [CM] Simon said:

The 180 degree turn when double tapping the stick is, to the best of my knowledge, being toggleable. 

And what do you mean the camera follows things? All camera controls are controlled by the user o.o

 

As for the general controls, can I ask what feels wrong for you? I personally think they're great but I just wonder what you would change

happens to me too, lol

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1 hour ago, [CM] Simon said:

The 180 degree turn when double tapping the stick is, to the best of my knowledge, being toggleable. 

And what do you mean the camera follows things? All camera controls are controlled by the user o.o

 

As for the general controls, can I ask what feels wrong for you? I personally think they're great but I just wonder what you would change

Its when you turn your character with the left stick the camera pans in that direction, it conflicts with the right stick. Ive only noticed it when your weapons are drawn

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3 hours ago, NewBlacksmurf said:

I'm finding them very user friendly....I started on PC tho

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding...but are you thinking the camera shouldn't ever move unless you move it?

IMO that is a very old setup that's not present in newer games in the Role Playing Genre.

ESO is newer and the left stick only moves your character. If all it did was make your character move forward, strafe and backpedal itd be perfect. 

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As far as the 180 thing goes. I learned very fast not to double tap  the right stick I think it was. And once you get used to that it actually is quite useful to spin your char around real quick in battle. I feel the controls actually are quite intuitive and easy to pick up. I do not have very strong experience with a controller WHAT-SO-EVER. I've had this Xbox for 10 days and coming from the PC BDO I have picked this up super fast. Now that is saying something I am one of the most clumsy controller users you can imagine lol

My experience has been postive with the current controll scheme , I feel once "Muscle memory" kicks in it will be even more of a second nature just as if It was a mouse in my hand. As far as an entirely new control scheme goes? Sorry I can't agree with that at all. I suggest giving it more of a chance to get used to it and see how it feels after some hours of gameplay.

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So far im LOVING the combat, its responsive, its intuitive, its NON TAB TARGET.   Sorry but in this game you actually have to LEARN moves and Memorize how to activate them.  Hence the skill portion of the game. The combat is an upgrade of ESO combat in every way.  Im pretty happy with my combat experience in this game so far.   Promising indeed.

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2 hours ago, [CM] Simon said:

The 180 degree turn when double tapping the stick is, to the best of my knowledge, being toggleable. 

And what do you mean the camera follows things? All camera controls are controlled by the user o.o

 

As for the general controls, can I ask what feels wrong for you? I personally think they're great but I just wonder what you would change

Hey Simon!

 

I met you at Pre-Pax this year and gave you my Input on this issue!

 

Like when you have a quest on (Any of them) or the Camera will Auto-Target a Mob (Sorta) and keep following them.. i see you made it so you can turn off the left-stick auto follow though.. but still happens every once in a while lol

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I don't like how on Xbox all my abilities that are tied to X were the abilities that were on Y when I played on PC. But after spending the last few hours at work think about it I think I actually prefer the current control system, I just have to get used to it.

 

But regarding the 180 camera thing, I only ever have it happen near a lot of mobs. Sometimes after attacking on the camera will shift really fast to point at another mob, which often causes my abilities to wiff. Which really sucks because abilities like rushing crow can already wiff easily if not spaced properly.

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Camera cant move with left stick, but move and turn off option on menu dont work good, work only on auto move

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It was a bit weird at first but now I am used to the control and like it, I think it just takes time since it's kind of different from games we play on xbox.

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