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I'm enjoying my tamer only Lv 30 ish but my witch is so much fun I'm only Lv 51 on that one,  I like the kuno awakening weapon but not a big fan of the class.  Dk is good too but I am just playing witch right now so I can be ready for Xbox launch 

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I cant wait to just watch the meta, from the looks of it the majority of people are going to play Sorc until the class they want releases, then they'll switch. So it seems pretty similar to what i heard PC was like, whole lot of Sorcs, now barely any after all them nerfs.

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48 minutes ago, Wiitchcraft said:

I cant wait to just watch the meta, from the looks of it the majority of people are going to play Sorc until the class they want releases, then they'll switch. So it seems pretty similar to what i heard PC was like, whole lot of Sorcs, now barely any after all them nerfs.

Sorc is really high skill capped.

Most players will play them for a day or 2 and roll witch / wiz.

If you dont have you animation cancels and combos down then the class is hell to level and play, its also heavily gear dependent for pvp.

Witch / wiz is pretty faceroll and doesn't need alot of AP to be effective.

 

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10 hours ago, Harming said:

Sorc is really high skill capped.

Most players will play them for a day or 2 and roll witch / wiz.

If you dont have you animation cancels and combos down then the class is hell to level and play, its also heavily gear dependent for pvp.

Witch / wiz is pretty faceroll and doesn't need alot of AP to be effective.

 

Most of the difficult cancels seem to be more in the Awakening move set. Though i mainly play fighting games so learning combos with cancels isnt all that new, they seem pretty straight forward in BDO, just have to develop the muscle memory.

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On 1/9/2019 at 2:29 AM, Harming said:

*preface* All information here will be based off of the various PC versions balance and performance history.

 

Hi guys,

One of the most asked questions when it comes to BDO is what class you should play.

Most people give you the generic "play what looks fun" answer but im a numbers guy so if you want some solid suggestions your in the right place.

I will go over our starting classes and give you the strengths / weaknesses / and any extra information I feel will help you in making a decision in what to play.

Section 1 : Relevance -

In the current state of BDO's meta only 3 of our starting 6 classes are currently relevant ( a top performing class in at-least one area of the game):

Those classes are : Wizzard / Witch / Sorc.

The current classes that are irrelevant in the BDO meta are : Warrior / Berserker / and Ranger.

If you want to stick to a class from launch to current game, and perform at an optimal level without re-rolling at some point I would recommend sticking to one of the the 3 relevant starting classes.

*explanations of why will be included in the specific class breakdowns.

Section 2 : Class breakdowns -

Since I have listed 3 classes as no longer relevant in the BDO meta I will start with those 3.

     Warrior:

     The warrior is the slowest grinder of the starting classes. It has great mobility and a high skillcap but lacks aoe (Scars of Dusk having a long cooldown). It has an advantage in  1 v 1 pvp pre-awakened over ranger, wizard, and witch but is countered by berserkers grab and sorcs mobility. In large scale (node wars) warrior acts as a "front line" before awakening. Once awakened the warrior gains a large amount of damage and slightly better aoe clear speeds.

The awakened warrior lost most of its "protection" with a sweeping nerf and have lost its relevance with this hit. It now lacks super armor on most of its abilities and is no longer viable for 1 v 1 or large scale pvp. It is one of the slowest grinding pve classes once awakened as well leaving it with no real role to fill that is not done better by another class.

    Berserker:

     The berseker is a pre-awakened juggernaut. It has 2 full self heals, more passive HP, a heavy damage grab, great mobility, and very fast grind speeds. It will seem overpowered until awakenings are released across the board. In 1 v 1 the zerk has the advantage over every class except sorc out of our starting classes. 

The awakened zerk was also top tier for a long time but was dethroned by a nerf that affected how CC works in BDO, destroying their grab chains. This koocked them down to B tier and the same protection nerfs that gutted warrior also hit zerks giving them a double dose of worthlessness in the bdo metta.

They no longer have protection on most o their abilities, and no longer have their cc chains. This has left them as a weak 1 v 1 class with mediocre grind speeds and no role to fill in large scale in the current meta.

     Ranger:

     The pre awakened ranger is the fastest grinding class of the starting 6 but relies heavily on mana potions to achieve this.  They have great overall damage and a ranged hard CC which is extremely powerful at this stage of the game. This combination makes them valuable in large scale and allows them to melt witch / wiz in 1  v 1. They have a good chance to catch a sorc due to their aoe spam as well.  The ranger will die though if caught by a grab from a warrior or zerk. Overall I believe that ranger is the best pre-awakened class out of the starting 6.

That being said it becomes absolute garbage once awakened. It fill no role that most other classes cant fill better. It grinds slowly, gets smashed in  1 v 1 , has little protection, becomes melee based, and is squishy once awakened, maning it can not stand the aoe spam of large scale pvp.

The ranger is the worst of the starting 6 classes to play long term.

     Witch / Wiz

     The best classes to start with if you plan to play long term. Both are god awful at 1  v 1 pre-awakend, loosing to any hard cc (which every other class has). Both are amazing aoe grinders, second only to ranger, but do not rely on potions. They are the best support characters in the game by a large margin, healing and buffing any party they are in. They also have a skill called Protected Area which single handedly decides who wins guild and node wars. Once awakened these classes become even more powerful and essential, allowing them to both grind even faster and hold their own in 1  v 1 scenarios.  They become the second fastest grinding class (behind Musa) on low DP mobs and are all around an amazing class in every aspect of the game. They also support faceroll gameplay with constant protection on most abilities and straight forward easy to use and land skills.

 

     Sorc:

Sorc is by far the most technical and skill based class of the starting 6 (and debateably of all the classes in BDO).  The difference between a good and bad sorc is the difference between being hunted by a kid with a nerf gun or a US Navy Seal. A good sorc is the god of 1 v 1 pvp. Both pre-awakened and awakened, challenged only by a very good ninja (and Striker / Mystic but both of those classes are just broken past sanity).  Pre-awakened sorc is the king of  1 v 1 pvp, in node wars it is the assassin that picks off the enemy's witch / wizards and protects their own in the back-lines. 

It is one of the slowest grinders, only faster than warrior of the original 6 pre-awakened but becomes one of the fastest once awakened. gaining the spot for fastest grinding class (highest DPS on high DP mobs such as those at Gyfin , Hysteria, Akhman). 

Sorc is a god but you need to put in alot of time learning animation cancels, rotations, and situational awareness. You also need very fast reflexes and solid snap decision making skills. Bad sorcs are cannon fodder. Play at your own risk.

Section 3: Maining a non-lauch class:

If you plan to main a class that will launch at a later date I would highly recommend you play a witch or wizard at launch. 

They both are very fast grinders, not dependant on potions, and can grind quickly with very little gear investment.

These classes will allow you to stockpile silver and are "safe" classes for world boss farming allowing you to save those boss weapon boxes until your chosen class is launched.

 

Hope this helps some of you who are trying to decide what to play!

 

 

 

@Harmingim curious if you noticed warrior has multi directional block on xbox... that was one of the first things i noticed. That changes alot of things if its like that on release.

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2 hours ago, MakeumRage said:

@Harmingim curious if you noticed warrior has multi directional block on xbox... that was one of the first things i noticed. That changes alot of things if its like that on release.

That is interesting. Your saying that your forward guard can be spun, like it was with mouse movement, instead of being in one direction? 

 

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7 minutes ago, Harming said:

That is interesting. Your saying that your forward guard can be spun, like it was with mouse movement, instead of being in one direction? 

 

No like bdo use to be on pc, when warrior holds block it covers him from all directions. It use to be that way on pc, but they changed it so its only from the front. On xbox, when warriors hold block the guard was omni directional. Without requiring them to move. 

 

Think old bdo where warriors would block the front lines and face tank all the damage no matter what direction. It was functioning like that on xbox. 

 

Edit: mouse movement would be amazing though.. hope we get an equivalent one day

Edited by MakeumRage

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6 minutes ago, MakeumRage said:

No like bdo use to be on pc, when warrior holds block it covers him from all directions. It use to be that way on pc, but they changed it so its only from the front. On xbox, when warriors hold block the guard was omni directional. Without requiring them to move. 

 

Think old bdo where warriors would block the front lines and face tank all the damage no matter what direction. It was functioning like that on xbox. 

 

Edit: mouse movement would be amazing though.. hope we get an equivalent one day

Ah that's straight haxploit lol. Warriors block guarding his back >.< 

Their only weakness then will be grapples.

Any other class will have to keep their distance and land cc as they do their charges.

Land cc. Kite, dodge the black soear, repeat 😋

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11 hours ago, Harming said:

Ah that's straight haxploit lol. Warriors block guarding his back >.< 

Their only weakness then will be grapples.

Any other class will have to keep their distance and land cc as they do their charges.

Land cc. Kite, dodge the black soear, repeat 😋

Warrior bdx meta confirmed lol

 

Great guide btw, would fit knowledge section imo

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You're forgeting one important thing. Having fun playing. Not everyone wan't to pick most powerful class out there just to be "the best" or fitting that damned meta thing. 

I started playing on PC when DK was released (so after awakening for most of the classes) and I picked Berserker. It's crazy good in early game but kinda weak in endgame, yet I was playing it for a year and was having fun. I could play Wizard and kill multiple people at once with one skill, but can Wizard kidnap people on his boat and transport unaware passengers to Port Ratt, or throwing them in the middle of the ocean making it even harder to come back? Berserker can.

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1 hour ago, Aposlaw said:

You're forgeting one important thing. Having fun playing. Not everyone wan't to pick most powerful class out there just to be "the best" or fitting that damned meta thing. 

I started playing on PC when DK was released (so after awakening for most of the classes) and I picked Berserker. It's crazy good in early game but kinda weak in endgame, yet I was playing it for a year and was having fun. I could play Wizard and kill multiple people at once with one skill, but can Wizard kidnap people on his boat and transport unaware passengers to Port Ratt, or throwing them in the middle of the ocean making it even harder to come back? Berserker can.

Agreed. I used this beta,  though I love witch to playing the other four classes. I changed my main, by the end of it to, sorceress, and will have a witch also. All classed I played past Rednose, I leveled witch to 40, soceress to 38. I ranked them from least to best for me personally, wizard.ranger.warrior.witch.sorcoress. Wizard was slow, just did not gel with him.  Ranger her moves were irritating at times, not fluid. The warrior was fun at first but got boring...Witch she zips through everything fast, but thats the problem it lacks something...presto...The sorceress, I kept hearing dont play her...it was love for me. The story lore and her fit together very well. Her moves are fun, keep your interest...she ony died during karza which got hard to see in there due to lag lol, and she fell off this cliff into a river lol otherwise she's hearty. I kept her stocked up with potions...she gets dogpiled on by 6 or 7 npcs lol and i think she's fihished and with one move sends them flying dead..she's so much more fun, I play on a 1x sye is fast not slow.. So play what you want to, not what others prescribe. If its not fun its the wrong class imhop.❤😊

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