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BDX QoL changes, bugs, and observances. CM/GMs please monitor this for updates

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This is an updated post that I had in General Discussions but the more I update this more I feel it belongs here under suggestions, not General Discussions. This is a cleaned up version and fully edited for a new post.

Things listed in RED things that need immediate attention.

Things listed in GRAY have been fixed/addressed and will be edited here on OP

Disclaimer: Black Desert is a Korean MMO port from PC. Black Desert started development in 2010 and it was officially released July 14th 2015 in Korea. This is not a new game, just because it's new to XBOX does not mean the game is going to be any different, or should be any different mechanic wise. Yes, the console has limitations, but with proper development time most things can become seamless between versions. 

 

As I play on BDX I will keep this posted update with findings as new ideas, content and bugs arrive.

Thank you,

Nightingale1176 [DoctorStrange]

 

 

Quality of Life

 

Enhancement Rates - PC players just got this, as a 3 year vet, it was nice to see how bad my chances really were. My suggestion comes for the new players, when they see the fail they need to understand why. While yes we now have charts, and google docs showing this for the most part, new players wont know to look for these. Please see enhancement photo

Skip enhancement - this is a big deal to us tin-foilers on PC. While I do notice you have it by double tapping the "x" button later on this could be a very bad way to accidentally degrade your newly found TRI piece of gear. This could be a toggle button so when fail stacking  you can just rip stones like we do on PC. Please see enhancement photo

Party/Guild Pinging - As a retired PvPer and node war player on PC, Pings were an important part of moving or organizing assaults. Also very helpful when trying to explain to your friends where certain things are or where you can be found to as simple as showing your friend where you park your horse. [ for players who have never played BDO, this a ping that can ONE set your auto path or two can be used to show a Red line in the open world where you are. ]

Guild quest funds - This was also just added to PC not too long ago this was a BIG QoL change for questing. Helps make a little silver per quest and rewards players who actually do quests. Everyone gets silver per mob or fish or log or rock collected. This will probably come with the guild update to add payouts and all the current guild changes that are on PC, but this would be good for newer players. 

Pet Groups - On PC we have 3 buttons to assign pets to 1-2-3, and it will pull out that group of pets. While most won't have this issue right away, From a PC player Stand point we have 3 types of pets: Life, Knowledge, Combat pet groups we use most. You also should have an easy way to select all pets to Agile, Normal and Cautious verses going one by one every time you pull your pets out. Please see pet photo

Alchemy/Cooking History - We have a function that lets us recall the last use ingredients down to the number which is helpful when spam cooking the same things over and over. This appears to only put the ingredients in, and not the amounts. 

Ingredients quantity - It feels like double work to select the ingredients put them in the station then select quantities. PC we just select the item, tell how much we want to put in, and it fills a slot. While I am adjusting to this version, this still feels like double work.

Node workers - while the system is different and will take some getting use too, I think some major QoL could be made here too. The menu is cool, but if I want to add a worker on a node you should just let me click the potato node and get to the same menu. The more I use the worker system the more cumbersome it appears to become. PC's version is way more streamlined and this actually needs an overhaul. Things like Sort by town, accessing workers right off the node without having to shuffle through a menu just click on a node and put a worker on it, Show WHAT THE NODES actually are. This needs some SERIOUS help. Please come back and revisit this system. Please see worker photos

Worker Cancellations from nodes -Just a small thing that is a big QoL. Having this ability to cancel nodes as you manager you worker empire is big, verses having to go to the worker menu to stop work. Please see worker photo

Pop up Alerts -On PC these are VERY annoying. I have everything turned off expect workers, and horses market registrations (T8s/Dream). We really need to be able to turn off other peoples looting, life skills, resets, enhancement fails, Market registrations, guild wars. 

edit - 04-09-19 still needs more options, I want to see certain things but not turn everything off. 

Cleansing +15 gear - Please do not make us go through the cancer of making a low level red alt to downgrade gear for fail stacking. Please add the simple NPC already in the PC version, and in the BDX version, just without the cleansing menu. 

Dish of Poorly Prepared Ingredients - You made a post talking about these not being in game at launch, yet your road map shows Kamasylve in the first "half" of 2019. These need to be in early on so people will have the contribution to do anything in Valencia let alone Kamasylve.  THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE for these to not be in the game right now. [CM] Shirna has stated it was for balance of early game. Yet they allowed Prognyl silver bars, enhanced weapons, armor, and accessories to be in game at launch, not considering the fact it takes about 180 Advanced cooking stations to hit 300 contribution from 200 with a ONE SECOND cook time [absolutely not possible early game] (rough math/RNG drop - about 50 hours of NON-STOP cooking). Please add this next patch. 

Skill menu - It is stupid I cannot access the skill menu during Auto running/riding to anywhere, cooking or any other activity. On PC I can't tell you how many times I pull up my skill menu to think about things, help friends with skills, see what add-ons I have, change a few skills around while I auto path to my destination, process, cook, fish or anything I'm doing "passively". 

Locking your 100% - I do not mean locking the actual skill just the ability to toggle it on and off (using the normal skill not the Black Spirit Rage). This was a major QoL change when it came to PC and shouldn't be the hard to bring to BDX. It really annoys me how I just want to save it to absorb when needed but countless amount of times blow the rage on stupid little things, then want it 10 seconds later. 

Cannot see what items prices are listed at - This is highly annoying when you are trying to look for an item and it says it is available but you have to put a buy order for max or guess and try each price to find where it is listed at. Please find away to show each price and what it is listed for like on PC.  (say a Steel Dagger is listed at 3 different prices ranging from 90k - 160k we have to guess at each increase to find where the 3 Steel Daggers are located)  Please note Steel Dagger Photo.

***Sorting Bank Storage*** - Self explanatory really. We need the option to sort the storage like we can our inventory. Things are already becoming a nightmare!  Please note my bank storage and how all woods are in a nice order and auto arrange is checked. 

Character Transport - This is not currently in our version but it was so helpful on PC to move characters around where needed. 

Cannot see exact quantities in Storage - while to the masses who have items less than 1,000 in one stack will see all the digits, it is very annoying as a professional cook/alchemist to NOT see exactly how much I have of an item. I plan things down to the exact station. This is especially true later when I have to physically go out an gather and rarer drop to make an item. I assume you did this for "clutter" reasons but maybe have it expose the full number when you hover over it or just show them at all times.  Please see my storage photo - yes that is 100,243 Elder Tree Timber, and 150,219 Palm Timber. 

Cannot access ring menus while in House - This is annoying when i got to try to feed workers while i'm cooking, or want to reach for my maid because i forgot something and don't want to run all the way back. Could be at least get the option to add the LT rings in so we have limited access? Side note while I do have a work around for the worker menu, it's still awkward to have to think of click on the beer to get to the worker menu. 

Auto Fishing Trash items - PC has the option to throw away all trash while fishing, this is just QoL for AFK fishing.

Horses Abysmal speed in towns - I know this was your fix for some peoples rendering issues, but holy crap I HATE going into towns with my horse because I slow down more than people auto running. Can you at lease let us auto run with our normal speed, and maybe not the active run or sprint?

Moving Items direct to bank form Central Market Storage - PC has this and is a much needed QoL when wanting to move stacks of items to your storage

NOT being able to leave cut scene when summoning bosses - This is SO ANNOYING. I want to skip it, let him summon in and get ready to fight. Not stand around, picking flowers and get smacked while I am frozen or stuck in my inventory because I couldn't close it out while said boss was summing in. 

Scrolls stacking and not expiring - pretty straight forward, and major QoL on PC.  People have lives, things happen, these scrolls should have been able to stack day one on BDX. Please see scroll photo

Choose which Chat you want to monitor - It is defaulted right now to only see Server chat. It's pretty cancerous and toxic. I'd rather look at my guild chat so I can see if anyone asked any questions or said something while I was away instead of going into a menu to see it. 

More characters in chat - I mean, I'm not trying to write a novel, but BDX isn't twitter. XD

Worker Repeat on Workbenches - Not sure if this is a bug or an over site on PA's part but on PC we can set workshop workers to repeat. In BDX we have no option other than check back and start another 1x task. 

Custom Character Photos - This is small and petty... But I can seriously take better photos than these defaults... plus I'm spoiled from PC being able to do this

Locking Items in Inventory - Ability to lock armor, costumes, life skill clothes so they cannot be sold or deleted on accident. 

Enhance/Durable for green items - This is on PC, lets Greens get to enhancement modes. Enhance lets you play the game as is currently, Durable allows it to take one less durability and allows it to fail more. While i am loving getting easy greens to +15 with less than 20-25 stones, i'm also supper annoyed I can't get an easy +15 stack anymore. 

Shining Powder - Still missing from the alchemy drop rate. Expecting this to come soon...I hope..

Worker Slots - The +3 lodging for Port Epheria, been out on PC forever, not sure why they are waiting so long to add these.

Hot Time - SHOULD BE 6p EDT - 4a EDT just as it is on PC.

Hide UI - You should be able to hide UI and use skills move around do anything you want. Not have it kick back the second you move. 

 

 

 

Bugs

Long Delay from closing Inventory and not being able to move - Not sure if this is a bug or if you have some weird timer on it.  I should be able to instantly go in and out of my inventory. This has been in since beta and gets very annoying to deal with. 

There is no item bug - This happens all the time. The only current fix is to log out to character select and log back in. This also happens with the Central Market taking and putting items from the market.

Market Place Registration notification bug - It appears when some one lists an item, the notification pops up 3-6 times. I noticed this when i saw 6 Shudad costumes for the same class get posted within seconds of each other. Then check and only 1 is listed. 

Processing Outfit not working from storage - this is bugged and needs to be fixed ASAP

Processing from Bank infinitely -  As of 03-27-19 while using the cash shop Processing outfit you can "indefinitely" process. Meaning once Either weight or Materials have all been used your character will not stop the processing animation. 

Sharps and Hards rarely if at all dropping - As of last small fix I have spent 600 energy on 1 character and have yet to get a sharp or hard drop while I am using Luck Shining tools, +5 gather, and +5 luck. 

Any repeat All button is missing - Example while cooking you can see to select "once" but hidden from view is the "batch/all" button is hidden. While it CAN still be selected its graphically messed up as of last minor maintenance. 

Missing NPCEpil Tanbu is missing and needed to get the energy in Tarif. 

Chat Duplications - Chat seems to duplicate different things at random. Will see 2 - 3 x of the same item appear at in a row.  

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Great patch today 05/08/19 for knocking out several QoL Changes. Still has a long way to go but it's progress.

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12 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Cannot see what items prices are listed at - This is highly annoying when you are trying to look for an item and it says it is available but you have to put a buy order for max or guess and try each price to find where it is listed at. Please find away to show each price and what it is listed for like on PC.  (say a Steel Dagger is listed at 3 different prices ranging from 90k - 160k we have to guess at each increase to find where the 3 Steel Daggers are located)  Please note Steel Dagger Photo. 

When selecting the price, you can see both preorders and current stock at each price. We'll continue to look at improving more in the future

 

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6 hours ago, [CM]Shirna said:

When selecting the price, you can see both preorders and current stock at each price. We'll continue to look at improving more in the future

 

opps i meant to cross that one off too! I knew I was missing one. This patch had a lot of great QoL updates, I can't wait to see what the next one brings that couldn't make it.

 

But still triggered about Absolutes vs Awakenings. As a PC Vet who lived through all the updates. Awakenings are way better designed for Valencia than Absolutes. Absolute skills were added because a lot of players complained once awakening skills were released the non awakening skills hit like wet noodles and couldn't use any of the cool original skills they once enjoyed. Absolutes was PAs response to it, made them useful to fill the gaps in cool downs from awakening, not to solo grind with them, to slow, cost to much, don't do enough damage yet because we all aren't 61 pushing 240 AP yet. Just put it this way an Absolute build at 58 costs about 1,100 - 1,200 skill points to be viable and useful, Awakening you only need at 58 about 600-700 skill points with near double to damage output. Which is better for the newer community to Black Desert? 

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8 hours ago, Nightingale said:

BEST CHANGE SINCE LAUNCH YOU ADDED BANK SORTING!!!!! Why is this not in the Patch Notes ? This should be in big BOLD LETTERS BANK SORTING NOW A THING!!!! 

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Lol what have not noticed this. When this is real then slap me in the face😅. I must test this tomorrow HYYYYYPE 😲😲😲

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1 minute ago, R4GE0fW4R said:

Lol what have not noticed this. When this is real then slap me in the face😅. I must test this tomorrow HYYYYYPE 😲😲😲

Just go up to your storage in any town and click LS inside the storage and it sorts just like your inventory. It's so amazing having all my cooking and processing materials all nice and neat now. 😂

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6 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

Just go up to your storage in any town and click LS inside the storage and it sorts just like your inventory. It's so amazing having all my cooking and processing materials all nice and neat now. 😂

Oh man this is the best thing they ever added😀 AWESOME 😍😍😍 and thanks for the info here😉👌

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1 hour ago, Primus said:

This is great work. Maybe you should become a CM? 

Thanks, I've been keeping up with this since beta jotting down things I see in PC vs xbox.  That would be awesome, if they would have me, but I don't think they want people with as much hands on knowledge of Black Desert and more here is what we tell you "what you need to know" knowledge. 

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1 hour ago, Iliuvatar said:

Please add devour for accessories too... 

at a reduced rate, maybe but a TRI accessory shouldn't give the same stack like a TRI weapon. 

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Worker repeat is alrady in go to your working bench-select worker-select task-press Y to set the amount of the task he should complete up to 50k ☺ I have done this today for steel axe production and copper/wood crates👍

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1 hour ago, R4GE0fW4R said:

Worker repeat is alrady in go to your working bench-select worker-select task-press Y to set the amount of the task he should complete up to 50k ☺ I have done this today for steel axe production and copper/wood crates👍

Awesome thanks will edit that now, I hadn't seen it in the patch notes yet, but just verified it! Good find! Can't believe that wasn't in at launch. It was one of my first finds that made me start this list to begin with. 

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On 5/9/2019 at 7:34 AM, [CM]Shirna said:

When selecting the price, you can see both preorders and current stock at each price. We'll continue to look at improving more in the future

 

We can't see the current stock NUMBER when we select a price, because the number is overlapping with the price at least in German. The pre order number is fine but I can't read the number of stock! Just put in the numbers for stock on left side and numbers for pre order on the right side without text, this would fix this issue!!!

Thx @CM Shirna

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1 minute ago, Silencium said:

Horse transport is something on PC right?

Yes, somewhat of a new feature. 100k and 1 hr and a horse can be moved to any open stable slot. Just cannot have trade items on it. 

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1 minute ago, R4GE0fW4R said:

Auto throw away trashloot from fishing is already in.☺ just hit x button after using the fishingrod, just to inform you @Nightingale 😅

awesome thanks for the heads up, ill double verify and cross it out! wasn't in the game last i checked.

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Just now, Nightingale said:

awesome thanks for the heads up, ill double verify and cross it out! wasn't in the game last i checked.

Right now I am lvling fishing that's how I found it out😅

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