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Feedback 2.0 (Jan 2020)

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@CM_Valtarra

Thank you Valtarra for being active and alive when it comes to player feedback and issue resolving! Much appreciated :)

(I will use a short and direct format here, to distribute information quickly)


#Pending suggestions/qol changes:

- screen clutter (pet on/off, quest on/off, photo mode at all times...)
- more guild mission variety

#High effort changes - Monthly sub aka value pack rework

Put a monthly price tag on BDO, one light and one premium.
Edit: to clear this up - this sub would be optional as it is for in game items, which still can be traded through the market place.

Light sub - you pay ~15$ for a 30 day value pack (rework includes energy regen buff, but no additional drop chance)

Premium sub - you pay ~30$ for a 30 day premium value pack (rework includes energy regen, drop chance and either 1 book of skill or 1 book of life for 30 days)
(Book of skill = combat exp, skill exp buff depending on available content = % up with later content // Book of life = life skill exp up)

#QoL changes

- add loggia tools asap, keep mastery for a later update (or when its ready)
- all current exp buffs (daily, bell ...) should also include life skills at 1/2 the rate (or at least 10-20%) 
- new BDO mobile-like(?) enhancing system, meaning: feed upgrade stones until you can pop, no more downgrade but loss of upgrade stones on fail
- remove old enhancing system for everyone's sanity 

#Keep news coming

- What is the new roadmap?
- Will console get Guardian on global release, too?
- Do we have an official written statement on eta Kamasylve and the missing classes?
- Either sync Twitter/Discord/Homepage or choose one; currently, we have Discord information on Archer in april(?), Twitter seems to offer latest announcements which sometimes are not true (wrong dates on awakening = confusion) and the Hompepage as place to read up patch notes lacks behind in news
- Can we get perma links on all answered live questions?

Thank you for reading!

Edited by Skywood

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no I disagree I am tired of your posts. Forced Subs, and Forced expansions there are plenty of games which have these payment options I like BDO payment options being optional.  I have spent way more money in the cash shop in this game than forced expansion and monthly sub purchases.  Stop telling BDO what they should charge for what, if they want to run sales let them run sales to increase sales and such.  BDO has coupons sales and all kinds of stuff that has made me have timed spending.

Also you are not a CFO, the CFO may be evaluating the company balance sheet and recommending changes to the cash shop in anticipation to operating expenses, seasonal income and such.  Also sometimes sales are run by holiday traditions and such.  I have probably spent $150-$200 in the last 6 weeks and I have about $400 spent since august.

 

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@ludiusvox
Hi, it seems you do not understand english very well.

"Forced subs" - as you can read up again, my suggestions were covering value packs. There is still the option to either buy them from the mp or play without (which is perfectly fine).

"Forced expansions" - were not even mentioned in my post, but good for you for letting us know.

"i like bdo payment options being optional" - still available from what i suggested, as value packs can be traded through the market place. Otherwise, i would have stated that the sub shall run through the ps account before entering the servers (like a hard block). I did not.

"i spend way more money" - good for you, thank you for supporting crimson desert.

"Stop telling BDO what they should change" - it is called feedback, it is not mandatory nor am i sitting in front of a magic button that says "do this, i command you".

Your whole argument is centered around my suggestion that we should get (overall cheaper) value packs that improve qol for players and still offer the free to play content. Therefore, i assume you are not quite on a level to comment on suggestions, because you fail to understand the suggestions.

Please do not further troll my posts or those of others.

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Your response is unimpressive and your “level” doesn’t impress anyone feel free to war dec my guild in game if you want to settle the disputes in game [madhatterz] C2

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7 hours ago, ludiusvox said:

Your response is unimpressive and your “level” doesn’t impress anyone feel free to war dec my guild in game if you want to settle the disputes in game [madhatterz] C2

My response is accurate.

On "a" level to comment on suggestions - is what i wrote. It is a metaphor.

"to settle the dispute in game" - are you kidding me?
1. What dispute? You did not understand my feedback and trolled my post.
2. If i ever wanted to settle a score, i would do it myself in real life.

 

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On 1/16/2020 at 4:25 PM, ludiusvox said:

no I disagree I am tired of your posts. Forced Subs, and Forced expansions there are plenty of games which have these payment options I like BDO payment options being optional.  I have spent way more money in the cash shop in this game than forced expansion and monthly sub purchases.  Stop telling BDO what they should charge for what, if they want to run sales let them run sales to increase sales and such.  BDO has coupons sales and all kinds of stuff that has made me have timed spending.

Also you are not a CFO, the CFO may be evaluating the company balance sheet and recommending changes to the cash shop in anticipation to operating expenses, seasonal income and such.  Also sometimes sales are run by holiday traditions and such.  I have probably spent $150-$200 in the last 6 weeks and I have about $400 spent since august.

 

I fully agree with your opinion about forced value packs. I disagree this suggestion too.

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I only spent $10.00 on PC buying this game, and bought a few value packs, some desert camo, and 2 tailoring coupons for the costume mill crafted costumes (I prefer those).  It was literally the best value I had ever had in a video game and when it was being released for PS4 I bought the Ultimate edition.

I think it might be difficult for Pearl Abyss to lower the initial cost of the game, but I thought it was so good I got 18 people to sign up for PS4.

I have playtested some other games thoroughly like shroud of the avatar and such and Shroud basically stays in business by catering to boomers and seniors who make up most of their player base because they were ultima online fans.

I was really skeptical about playing this game at first but, I find my "minimum payments" to be lower than elder scrolls online.

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18 hours ago, CloudMcRip said:

I disagree this suggestion too

Can you (why am i even trying btw) clarify this statement. Otherwise you are presenting an uneducated response to the suggestion.
Here is why: Read this before replying -
1) It is optional = nothing changes if you free2play the game
2) It offers MORE bang for the buck = you pay 15$ for 30 days of value pack + energy regen (would cost you at least 10$+ for 15 days)
To get energy regen you'd have to pay 2x 1000 pearls if on sale or 2x 1250 pearsl = 2000 to 2500 pearls for the energy buff
Add the value pack on top. Figure. 
3) The premium version would also include a book of skill/life which will be buffed with later content

Apart from that, none of you even touched the other 7 points. But don't worry, your feedback is viewed as trolling so far. so you might as well stay in familiar waters.

 

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What i can read out of your Feedback: "Change everything to my likings so that i can't safe a few $"

so lets start
- Screen Clutter: Overall the UI and handling sucks for me, but i don't have any idea how to make it better
- more guild mission variety: will come with Magoria, Kamasylve & Drieghan

- Monthly sub for sth. like Value Pack: You are too lazy just sayin / so i dont think that is needed
- Rework Value Pack light sub/premium sub: #facepalm really it is perfect as it is. This is not TESO !!!!! If you like their financial politics pls leave BDO and go to TESO?

- Loggia Tools: Wow you want the full PC version with all the content directly right? Give them time to work and bring Content. Go back to PC then
- You are lazy and ignorant, you want everything at once. It is good that people have to choose where they want to focus on
- Enhancing Method: that something i would agree with. I like the mobile enhancing Method yeah, but it is for mobile. a mobile game needs to be so much faster progress then a pc or console version. And the Enhancing isn't that hard if you work with Failstacks.

- Roadmap: Is up since 22th Jan 2020
- Guardian: Wow and again, Have a little patience
- i would only trust information that you find on the official Homepage, not facebook, not twitter.

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6 minutes ago, Taikii said:

What i can read out of your Feedback: "Change everything to my likings so that i can't safe a few $"

so lets start
- Screen Clutter: Overall the UI and handling sucks for me, but i don't have any idea how to make it better
- more guild mission variety: will come with Magoria, Kamasylve & Drieghan

- Monthly sub for sth. like Value Pack: You are too lazy just sayin / so i dont think that is needed
- Rework Value Pack light sub/premium sub: #facepalm really it is perfect as it is. This is not TESO !!!!! If you like their financial politics pls leave BDO and go to TESO?

- Loggia Tools: Wow you want the full PC version with all the content directly right? Give them time to work and bring Content. Go back to PC then
- You are lazy and ignorant, you want everything at once. It is good that people have to choose where they want to focus on
- Enhancing Method: that something i would agree with. I like the mobile enhancing Method yeah, but it is for mobile. a mobile game needs to be so much faster progress then a pc or console version. And the Enhancing isn't that hard if you work with Failstacks.

- Roadmap: Is up since 22th Jan 2020
- Guardian: Wow and again, Have a little patience
- i would only trust information that you find on the official Homepage, not facebook, not twitter.

I support this. I don't know why there is this HUGE group of console players who continuously rant about everything that any devs do. I saw that in PUBG, I saw that in For Honor.. I see it here. I've been playing bdx on console since launch on 1st of March 2019 and I can't wrap my head around how much hate this game gets but people still play it. Well, it is the best action combat mmo ever made so maybe that's why.. It is also most likely the best console mmo. I would only drop it to play wow if it ever released on anything than PC.  

People will be very disappointed when they realize that we won't get anything that came to PC in last quarter of 2019 until 2021.. Manos, succession etc. It's just not going to happen.

We miss major things like Dreighan, Star's End, Sycraia etc. Hell.. we don't even have offin yet.  I can only imagine that every region will be here for 3 or even 6 months before another is released so we have a long 

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@Skywood Hi there :) I don't know how this one slipped through my fingers!! Thank you once again for taking the time to thoughtfully express your views on where you can see improvements for the game. I will pass this on to the devs this evening. I will also be including everyones opinions so the devs have a balanced perspective of everyone's thoughts. 

 

Thanks everyone for taking time to weigh in on this aspect of the game ❤️

CM Valtarra

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